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Asylumsway



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:01 am    Post subject: Alcohol Reply with quote

and the United States.
Before I begin, I'd like to say I am indeed 19(under 21), and I am fully aware that the bill that affects the drinking age isn't due to be discussed for 4 years.

I am very much against the drinking age being 21, but I'll hold on my arguments for now.
What are your thoughts on the drinking age in the USA? Is it too high? too low? unconstitutional? etc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too high. In Europe we have much less strict laws, and it mostly works.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Finnish system mostly works (at 18 you can buy anything at bar and liquor that has less that 22% alcohol from store, 20 to buy anything from store). At 18 you're considered as an adult by law, can take loans, drive car and do all that stuff. So you are also considered to take responsibility for your drinking too.

Granted, there's lots of problems with alcohol, but that's more of a cultural thing that wouldn't be changed by changing age where you can purchase alcohol.

That's why drinking age in USA sounds a bit high to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh, I thought the Finnish system was at 21% alcohol.
But the culural thing with alcohol in the United States is a weird one. For example, it is generally accepted that college students and even some high school students drink regularly. Even though this is accepted, it is still a felony to be drinking underage, to be providing, or even just being at the same location. Changing the drinking age, in the long run, will change the culture, just like raising it in 1984 did.

In the USA, you are considered an adult at 18 as well, but for some unknown reason many things are making seem like 18-20 years of is just another step in childhood.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to actually check that, since I first thought it's 21% of volume. But it really seems to be that anything that doesn't exceed 22% of volume of alcohol, is not considered to be strong.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always considered it total bullshit. What about sigars? Cars? Guns? I truly never understood the rationale behind, the cause of a law so strict.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this amusing, as I am now 21 and this topic is roughly 15 topics down. I feel like my normal rules on forums are that I don't post on anything that's not on the first page, but I really feel like I'm digging into archives now.

Anyways, Max, to buy rifles you need to be 18 and for pistols it's 21. I never really understood it though either, the idea that I can die for my country but I can't buy a beer.
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